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宋志平:混合所有制不是国企的钱加民企的钱

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(  搜)(狐)(财)(经)(讯)(12月)(21日)(,北)(京)(大)(学)(光)(华)(管)(理)(学)(院)(主)(办)(的)(“第)(十)(六)(届)(北)(大)(光)(华)(新)(年)(论)(坛)(”在)(北)(大)(邱)(德)(拔)(体)(育)(馆)(举)(行)(,论)(坛)(主)(题)(为)(“文)(化)(重)(塑)(与)(经)(济)(转)(型)(”。中)(国)(建)(筑)(材)(料)(集)(团)(董)(事)(长)(宋)(志)(平)(在)(高)(峰)(对)(话)(环)(节)(做)(了)(发)(言)(。
宋)(志)(平)(部)(分)(发)(言)(内)(容)(如)(下)(:
  宋)(志)(平)(:我)(是)(做)(水)(泥)(的)(,我)(做)(到)(4.5亿)(吨)(的)(水)(泥)(,全)(球)(第)(一)(。但)(是)(,转)(型)(实)(际)(上)(不)(是)(转)(行)(,不)(是)(说)(我)(们)(水)(泥)(不)(做)(了)(,这)(样)(大)(的)(一)(个)(水)(泥)(的)(需)(求)(,我)(们)(不)(可)(能)(大)(家)(从)(水)(泥)(里)(都)(跑)(去)(做)(电)(商)(。其)(实)(转)(型)(是)(指)(我)(们)(各)(行)(各)(业)(,我)(们)(要)(用)(新)(的)(创)(新)(的)(理)(念)(,用)(新)(的)(技)(术)(来)(提)(升)(我)(们)(这)(个)(行)(业)(的)(素)(质)(和)(水)(平)(。
  主)(持)(人)(让)(我)(从)(我)(这)(个)(行)(业)(看)(看)(文)(化)(重)(塑)(和)(转)(型)(升)(级)(,我)(想)(讲)(这)(么)(两)(个)(观)(点)(,一)(个)(观)(点)(我)(觉)(得)(现)(在)(“新)(常)(态)(”下)(,我)(们)(的)(问)(题)(很)(多)(,机)(遇)(也)(很)(多)(,各)(方)(面)(利)(益)(的)(诉)(求)(也)(很)(多)(。那)(么)(,在)(这)(种)(情)(况)(下)(,我)(们)(的)(增)(长)(应)(该)(是)(一)(种)(什)(么)(样)(的)(增)(长)(?看)(起)(来)(是)(一)(个)(增)(长)(问)(题)(,也)(是)(个)(文)(化)(问)(题)(。我)(觉)(得)(我)(们)(还)(是)(应)(该)(提)(倡)(包)(容)(性)(的)(增)(长)(。在)(能)(充)(分)(照)(顾)(到)(社)(会)(、环)(境)(和)(方)(方)(面)(面)(相)(关)(者)(的)(利)(益)(的)(情)(况)(下)(,来)(考)(虑)(我)(们)(的)(增)(长)(。
  我)(讲)(的)(不)(能)(只)(考)(虑)(自)(己)(的)(,单)(方)(面)(的)(增)(长)(,要)(考)(虑)(到)(整)(个)(的)(协)(同)(的)(整)(体)(的)(全)(局)(的)(增)(长)(。我)(觉)(得)(这)(是)(一)(个)(很)(重)(要)(的)(观)(点)(。因)(为)(过)(去)(我)(们)(在)(增)(长)(的)(时)(候)(,往)(往)(自)(己)(只)(顾)(自)(己)(,有)(时)(候)(光)(顾)(了)(社)(会)(的)(责)(任)(,有)(时)(候)(光)(顾)(了)(环)(境)(等)(等)(这)(些)(问)(题)(。我)(们)(追)(求)(了)(“大)(”,追)(求)(了)(“快)(”,追)(求)(了)(“多)(”,但)(是)(我)(们)(带)(来)(一)(系)(列)(的)(问)(题)(。所)(以)(,在)(我)(们)(转)(型)(的)(时)(候)(,我)(们)(的)(思)(想)(,我)(们)(的)(文)(化)(,按)(我)(们)(孔)(子)(讲)(的)(适)(可)(而)(止)(,能)(够)(照)(顾)(到)(方)(方)(面)(面)(,应)(该)(有)(这)(样)(一)(种)(包)(容)(性)(的)(文)(化)(来)(处)(理)(我)(们)(企)(业)(,和)(我)(们)(行)(业)(,和)(我)(们)(社)(会)(生)(产)(,经)(济)(方)(面)(的)(增)(长)(,这)(是)(我)(的)(第)(一)(个)(观)(点)(。
  第)(二)(个)(观)(点)(,关)(于)(转)(型)(和)(创)(新)(,我)(觉)(得)(应)(该)(走)(一)(条)(融)(合)(型)(创)(新)(的)(道)(路)(。比)(如)(我)(们)(说)(改)(革)(,改)(革)(既)(有)(国)(企)(,又)(有)(民)(企)(,那)(么)(,我)(们)(讲)(一)(会)(儿)(要)(国)(进)(民)(退)(,一)(会)(儿)(要)(国)(退)(民)(进)(,我)(们)(讲)(国)(民)(要)(共)(进)(,国)(企)(和)(民)(企)(能)(够)(交)(叉)(持)(股)(,达)(到)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(,达)(到)(共)(同)(的)(发)(展)(。比)(如)(我)(们)(讲)(刚)(才)(的)(题)(目)(,传)(统)(产)(业)(,水)(泥)(和)(互)(联)(网)(,鼠)(标)(,这)(15年)(前)(我)(们)(有)(一)(句)(口)(号)(叫)(“水)(泥)(+鼠)(标)(”。强)(调)(了)(传)(统)(产)(业)(和)(互)(联)(网)(的)(结)(合)(,如)(果)(没)(有)(实)(业)(,互)(联)(网)(也)(是)(没)(法)(做)(的)(,互)(联)(网)(只)(是)(解)(决)(了)(我)(们)(一)(个)(商)(业)(模)(式)(。但)(是)(,我)(们)(要)(提)(升)(传)(统)(行)(业)(的)(素)(质)(,比)(如)(中)(国)(建)(材)(,我)(做)(水)(泥)(,以)(前)(的)(水)(泥)(是)(几)(百)(人)(一)(个)(工)(厂)(,现)(在)(实)(际)(上)(几)(十)(人)(,甚)(至)(可)(以)(做)(到)(无)(人)(工)(厂)(,可)(以)(用)(互)(联)(网)(的)(远)(程)(控)(制)(,可)(以)(用)(智)(能)(化)(的)(模)(拟)(的)(办)(法)(做)(到)(,这)(个)(把)(它)(结)(合)(起)(来)(。所)(以)(,我)(觉)(得)(这)(之)(间)(可)(以)(融)(合)(在)(一)(起)(。
  再)(比)(如)(现)(在)(大)(家)(讲)(的)(比)(较)(多)(的)(,比)(较)(时)(髦)(的)(,就)(是)(比)(较)(时)(尚)(的)(大)(众)(创)(新)(。以)(前)(我)(们)(讲)(以)(企)(业)(为)(主)(体)(的)(创)(新)(,这)(两)(个)(之)(间)(也)(是)(可)(以)(融)(合)(的)(。其)(实)(企)(业)(的)(创)(新)(可)(以)(和)(大)(众)(创)(新)(联)(合)(起)(来)(,大)(家)(的)(创)(新)(可)(以)(给)(企)(业)(外)(包)(出)(去)(,外)(包)(的)(创)(新)(,大)(家)(以)(企)(业)(做)(平)(台)(获)(得)(创)(新)(。所)(以)(,我)(的)(意)(思)(就)(是)(之)(间)(是)(可)(以)(联)(系)(在)(一)(起)(的)(,这)(就)(是)(我)(的)(观)(点)(。
  主)(持)(人)(:刚)(刚)(谈)(到)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(,大)(家)(讨)(论)(非)(常)(多)(,这)(个)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(当)(中)(自)(然)(就)(出)(现)(了)(所)(谓)(的)(文)(化)(冲)(突)(,包)(括)(对)(企)(业)(文)(化)(的)(理)(解)(。民)(营)(经)(济)(和)(我)(们)(所)(谓)(的)(国)(有)(经)(济)(之)(间)(的)(互)(相)(的)(冲)(突)(或)(合)(作)(。您)(在)(做)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(的)(过)(程)(当)(中)(有)(一)(些)(什)(么)(样)(的)(现)(实)(摆)(在)(您)(面)(前)(?您)(怎)(么)(来)(解)(决)(这)(种)(文)(化)(的)(冲)(突)(也)(好)(,文)(化)(的)(重)(塑)(也)(好)(?
  宋)(志)(平)(:混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(其)(实)(我)(做)(了)(很)(多)(年)(。混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(企)(业)(在)(我)(做)(的)(建)(材)(里)(面)(有)(1000多)(家)(,以)(前)(我)(做)(国)(药)(的)(董)(事)(长)(,企)(业)(有)(600多)(家)(,大)(家)(想)(想)(有)(多)(少)(家)(。但)(是)(,混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(也)(不)(像)(大)(家)(所)(讲)(的)(国)(企)(、民)(企)(融)(在)(一)(起)(,好)(像)(是)(水)(和)(火)(,好)(像)(必)(然)(要)(引)(发)(矛)(盾)(。其)(实)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(只)(是)(说)(我)(们)(是)(把)(国)(企)(的)(实)(力)(和)(民)(企)(的)(活)(力)(结)(合)(起)(来)(,形)(成)(我)(们)(的)(竞)(争)(力)(。所)(以)(,混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(实)(际)(上)(不)(管)(是)(你)(的)(钱)(加)(上)(我)(的)(钱)(等)(于)(更)(多)(的)(钱)(,而)(是)(我)(们)(优)(势)(互)(补)(,其)(实)(大)(家)(互)(相)(需)(求)(。比)(如)(国)(企)(需)(要)(民)(营)(企)(业)(的)(拼)(搏)(精)(神)(和)(市)(场)(的)(活)(力)(,民)(企)(也)(需)(要)(国)(企)(的)(实)(力)(,其)(实)(是)(互)(补)(的)(。所)(以)(,一)(讲)(起)(来)(总)(是)(看)(到)(他)(们)(的)(差)(别)(和)(对)(立)(,其)(实)(咱)(们)(讲)(到)(辩)(证)(法)(,对)(立)(统)(一)(,过)(去)(强)(调)(对)(立)(太)(多)(,我)(们)(想)(问)(题)(都)(是)(想)(对)(立)(,其)(实)(我)(觉)(得)(统)(一)(更)(重)(要)(。
  所)(以)(,在)(我)(做)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(的)(时)(候)(,其)(实)(我)(们)(没)(有)(遇)(到)(大)(的)(矛)(盾)(和)(冲)(突)(,为)(什)(么)(?第)(一)(、有)(一)(个)(共)(同)(的)(战)(略)(被)(大)(家)(认)(同)(。第)(二)(、有)(一)(个)(共)(赢)(的)(机)(制)(给)(大)(家)(。第)(三)(、是)(我)(们)(大)(家)(一)(个)(共)(同)(的)(文)(化)(,一)(个)(包)(容)(的)(文)(化)(,大)(家)(能)(够)(互)(相)(照)(顾)(,彼)(此)(尊)(重)(。我)(觉)(得)(这)(些)(就)(够)(了)(。所)(以)(,做)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(即)(使)(那)(么)(多)(家)(,到)(今)(天)(为)(止)(还)(没)(有)(一)(家)(就)(不)(干)(了)(,到)(今)(天)(还)(没)(有)(过)(。所)(以)(,我)(觉)(得)(混)(合)(所)(有)(制)(是)(完)(全)(是)(可)(以)(的)(。
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